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D has found "I've Never Seen Star Wars." One guest had never read a Terry Pratchett book, and was given The Colour of Magic, and hated it. I really can't blame him, it's not a great example of Pratchett's work, and although interesting for references later, it's not where I'd start out someone who is on record as not liking fantasy, nor specifically comic novels. Reading a parody of a genre one is not fond of nor familiar with is just not going to work well. D has never managed to get through it at all.

We have both been reading Pratchett for a long time, and not all the books are great. Some are formulaic, others are developing ideas that bear fruit a few books on. He has become a powerful novelist, but not all of them were fabulous, even if all of them have at least a few good ideas and great lines. D went through a phase of just not liking them at all, because he'd gotten tired of the "idiot breaks into the Demon Dimensions, and Rincewind runs away" ploy. Pratchett himself seems to realize this, as he has the Patrician assure himself that this is not going to happen in The Truth, as it had in Moving Pictures and Soul Music.

A few men who read Pratchett have expressed disinterest in Granny Weatherwax, one of my favorite characters ever. Taking a step back, she has a kind of one-note quality, unless you listen closely. She's always right, except when she isn't. I would love to get a young girl reading all the Witch books, which are more about these characters and less about the plots. Which may be why the guys are less interested in them. But they also became a formula, danger threatens Lancre, witches fight it off, peace of a sort is restored. And he did a lot of them, six to date, with Granny showing up in even more. She's always there, keeping a (very) sharp eye on things. But I'm glad that likewise, the older major characters, like Mustrum Ridcully, seem to have taken on emeritus roles, stealing a scene or two from the younger leads.

I have never been fond of Rincewind, and Erik capped it for me. Short as it is, I don't think I've ever finished it, although I've tried again recently just to catch a few references in later books. Hated The Last Continent, although I could read it second time through, skimming a bit, and it wasn't as bad as I remembered. I always figured it more as a fantasy travelogue written while under the influence of a lot of beer, than as something to actually read.

The books I would recommend to a new reader would be the stand alone novels, without the recurring characters. Although I love the Watch books, Guards! Guards! Men at Arms and Feet of Clay as they lay the groundwork for probably the strongest novel, Night Watch, I would not start someone there, mostly because the first two, in particular, are still more parody than book. Like Masquerade is a parody of Phantom of the Opera, and other pop culture references of that year. His parodies just don't hold up as well. The next two Watch books - with the fascinating Commander Sir Samuel Vimes - The Fifth Elephant and Thud! like Night Watch, have a moral center, but I think need the backstory of the first three. Maybe not, but it might be a difficult place to start reading.

No, I would start a newbie off with Hogfather, Small Gods, or Going Postal and Making Money. Even Monstrous Regiment, although I didn't much enjoy it when it came out, it has since grown on me. These are written about Christmas and belief, Gods and the dangers of belief, a con man and his adventures in public service and banking, and the women in war. Not parody of another popular work.

The other paths in, are the Tiffany Aching young adult books, simpler, more adventurous, though no less witty, and with Nac Mac Feegles.


Not to overlook DEATH who stars in several books, and makes appearances in most others, including Good Omens, although not a Discworld book. Since HE will certainly not overlook me.

So, anyone who reads just one, early Terry Pratchett novel, and won't read more, is obviously missing the many possibilities. Rather like only hearing "Love Me Do" and hating the Beatles. You may not like any of the mature work, but it's unfair to judge without another try. The good stuff often takes a while to sink in.

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9 comments:

Blogger Pacian said...

The Dark Side of the Sun was the first Pratchett book I read, and is still my favourite.

12:12  
Blogger Zhoen said...

Pacian,
I know of that one, but I've never come across it. Sounds interesting.

12:46  
Blogger Geosomin said...

WEll then...I've always held back from reading his works as people seemed to rave about him but the one I read was a dud.
I'll pick one from your list of good ones and start there...

13:50  
Blogger Zhoen said...

Geo
There are also a lot of them recorded, the ones read by Stephen Briggs are all good. There is a radio dramatization recorded of Night Watch that I really enjoy.

And, he may just not be to your liking. I've never been able to read Dickens, although I do like the dramatized versions of his work.

14:02  
Blogger gz said...

Definitely the Hogfather (but NOT the film) for a first read. Feet of Clay is quite good from a potter's point of view-he does his research well!

Johnny and the Dead? (trilogy)

and don't forget Truckers

15:25  
Blogger Zhoen said...

gz,
I really am not fond of his earlier stuff, Truckers especially. By and large, I think he's gotten so much better in recent years. (And I like Once More With Footnotes - which apparently is the most valuable book we now own.) The Hogfather film isn't so bad, but you're right, not for the introduction. They do get DEATH right, I thought. And I love the cameo by Tony Robinson.

Who would you give to a dubious reader, though? One that will enchant, and make them want to go back and get the set-ups for the jokes? I suspect that starting at the end and working back would be best. If I'd started with, say, Strata, I'd never have read another.

What do those of you who live in England think of Unseen Academicals?

16:23  
Blogger Radish King said...

I have never seen Star Wars. At least not all the way through. I have however seen Spaceballs at least 1 gazillion times and I think it's hilarious.


I'm such a trog.

18:24  
Blogger Zhoen said...

RK,
If I hadn't been taken to it by my brother when I was 16, I probably wouldn't have seen it. At that age, it was fun, saw it 3X, but it didn't change my life. When I saw it again during the rehash, I did't think much of it at all. And I went to Empire Strikes Back 6X. Jedi only once.

Went to see the first of the prequels, and stopped right there. Enough was enough.

Some experiences have to hit at the right age.

18:36  
Blogger Dale said...

I'll take another shot at it someday, and when I do I'll come back to this to see what I should start with :-)

09:27  

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